Numbers and the Country

(Note: Apologies for the sucky formatting, but I’m tired of fighting with WordPress: it’ll have to do.)

I had this little gem dropped in my inbox by one of my wingnut Arizona relatives:

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So let’s see if the Bush tax cuts only helped the rich:

Taxes Under Clinton Taxes Under Bush
Single 30K – $8400 Single 30K – $4500

Single 50K – $14,000 Single 50K – $12,000

Single 75K – $23,250 Single 75K – $18,750

Married 60K – $16,800 Married 60K – $9,000

Married 75K – $21,000 Married 75K – $18,750

Married 125K – $38,750 Married 125K – $31,250

It is amazing how many people that fall into the categories above think Bush is screwing them and Bill Clinton was a great President. That shows how effective the mainstream media has been in influencing our thinking. If any Democrat is elected ALL of them say they will repeal the Bush tax cuts and a good portion of the people that fall into the above categories can’t wait for it to happen.

This is like the movie “The Sting” with Paul Newman; you scam somebody out of their money and they don’t even know what happened.

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I don’t know how comprehensively accurate those figures are, but rather than argue the point I decided to widen the question; after all, all these people are Good Christian Americans, and doubtless concerned about more than their own personal paychecks; certainly they’d want to know the bigger picture of how Bush and his mentors did in running the US economy as a whole. So I told them:

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So I got 14% more in my tax return? Wow, it almost seems like there’d be, you know, some kind of catch! Something like, oh,

  1. The largest budget in US history?
  2. The largest budget deficit in US history?
  3. The largest discretionary spending in US history?
  4. The largest national debt in US history?
  5. The largest growth in federal government in US history?
  6. The largest growth in state and local government in US history?
  7. The largest decline in manufacturing jobs in US history?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/09/business/09charts.html?ei=5088&en=95e59b714a085a5c&ex=1360213200&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=print
http://weblogs.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/white_house_deficit_on_the_ris.html

Man, George W. Bush just doesn’t get enough credit! If only there were some graphical way to compare his economic genius to that of other Presidents…

Economic Performance Index

Clinton v. Bush II
http://www.ppionline.org/ndol/print.cfm?contentid=252964

Wait, I thought we were better off! What was that bit about poverty?

Poverty In US

Poverty rates in the United States, 1989-2006
Source: US Census Bureau
http://hanlonsrazor.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/poverty-under-bush-poverty-under-clinton/

Oh. But isn’t George W. Bush the new standard-bearer for a proud tradition of fiscal responsibility?

New Debt from 1980
http://www.marktaw.com/culture_and_media/TheNationalDebt.html

Dang, what did all that new debt, constantly being compounded, do to our overall balance sheet?

US National Debt
http://www.cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.htm

http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2007/01/bushs_fiscal_ir.html

Gee, that’s a little busy… can you clean it up a little?

US NAtional Debt
http://zfacts.com/p/318.html

Uh, thanks, I think. Say, forget percentage of dumb ol’ GDP, what did the raw numbers look like?

Gross US Deficit

-Gross-National-Deficit
http://zfacts.com/p/519.html

Well… that’s all a little depressing, when you look at the big picture. Too much reality, all at once…
But hey, I’m one of the ones who still has a decent job, and I saved a bunch on my (federal) taxes!

PARTY TIME!!!! WOO-HOO!!!! LET”S ORDER CHINESE!!!!

Aw, nuts….
Trade Deficit
http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/crisis/tradedeficit/tables/1101tradedeficit.htm

To quote somebody or other,
This is like the movie “The Sting” with Paul Newman; you scam
somebody out of their money and they don’t even know what happened.


BT
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Oddly enough, this information wasn’t received well by that crowd; some of them actually found it offensive, and were forced to make an example of me with their rapier wit and superior scholastic skills. For example:

Loser man – Bush doesn’t make any of the decisions. Did you buy into what you’re told to believe? Remember high-school civics class? The congress makes and passes the laws, not the pres. He does make a good target for ignorant lamers to point at and blame for everything they don’t like, but reality’s different. Democrat congress has done everything you ascribe to Bush.

So there we go: it’s all down to the Democratic Congresses (sorry, congresses) who dominated the country since 1980 0r thereabouts, and most particularly over the last seven years. Who knew?

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~ by B.T. Murtagh on March 16, 2008.

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